Remote Control Question - Printable Version

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Remote Control Question - gReatAutomation - 07-14-2019

I'm currently tinkering with a GC-100-06 and hope to replace my Harmony Hubs that I currently have in use. If I am understanding this correctly, I can use practically any remote I want with the┬áGC-100-06 (using RS232 into my TV)┬áin conjunction with CQC to control what I am doing with the Harmony Hub?

For example, I have the following

Watch TV

Turn on TV
Switch input to TV
Starting Channel is Channel 2

Watch Apple TV

Turn on TV
Switch input to HDMI1

Watch Security Camera

Turn on TV
Switch input to HDMI2

My assumption is that I can store the IR commands from my TV and from my Apple TV in CQC and then have the programming in CQC. While the Harmony Hub does the job, it is very flaky and is cloud based. Also, the programming interface is really terrible.

Another assumption is that I can use a standard universal┬áremote┬áto execute the program stored in CQC? This one, for example.

One thing I would like to do that is similar to what a buddy with Control4 has set up:

Door bell ring or NVR polygon detection at front door.┬áIf TV is on,┬áswitch to picture in picture with┬ásecurity camera HDMI in PIP, then send IR code to NVR to display only front door camera. Or just switch to the HDMI input that shows all cameras. Could come up with a variety of these scenarios with alarm sensors as well (eg, fence gate, driveway sensor, etc.). Could also just have it display this for like 10 - 30 seconds, then go back to whatever was showing (e.g., live tv).

RE: Remote Control Question - gReatAutomation - 07-14-2019

I found an example from┬ásomeone using OpenHAB┬áof PIP'ing the security camera feed which illustrates the above. The blog post is here, and while using OpenHAB, I think I could do the same with CQC and GC-100-6.

RE: Remote Control Question - gReatAutomation - 07-14-2019

I found another one. Blog here.

RE: Remote Control Question - Dean Roddey - 07-14-2019

You can send sequences of IR commands as required. If it takes more than a single command, then likely you'd want to create a global action that combines the commands, and possibly takes a parameter that the action will use to drive what it does. This will greatly reduce redundant grunt work.

So, for instance, a global action that sets a channel. It takes a channel number, and then looks at the first character and builds up the name of the IR command to send. Then looks at the next character and sends that one. And so forth. It's a little clunking doing that sort of logic in an action (variable length value) but it's doable. Then you can just invoke the action with a channel number and it will issue the appropriate commands, instead of doing that all over the place.

You will have to train in the commands to create 'device models' for the devices you want to control. That will require a GC-100 compatible IR learner, which is the GC IRL. When you create device models with that guy, and save them, they show up as loadable in the GC-100 driver for blasting.

RE: Remote Control Question - znelbok - 07-14-2019

I did exactly this with my TV that used to have PIP. Albeit with serial and not IR, but that has no bearing on this. Camera would detect motion (no NVR in this scenario) and send a http get command to CQC. CQC would then check if the TV was on, and then turn on PIP so the image would be visible. 1m later, CQC would turn of PIP.

I did a similar thing with phone calls and Kodi. If we were watching a movie and the phone rang CQC would take the CID and put a message up on the screen (kodi message feature) and we would know who was calling and decide if we wanted to interrupt the movie or not.

Once you have the IR commands, CQC does not care what the command is (IR, Serial etc) it will just send them out as you command.

RE: Remote Control Question - kblagron - 07-14-2019

I have 4 different TV's and my Sony receiver controlled by 4 different GC-100's using IR.┬á Actually I went with an GC Itach (IP2IR)┬áon the last one, and it works fine as well.

I found that┬áhttp://files.remotecentral.com/┬áis a great resource for the Pronto codes, which CQC allows you to insert for the various commands you want to use in the Client Interface.

I probably should of done what Dean suggested and did a global action, but did mine like the triggered event┬ábelow: (which turns on the Cameras if motion is detected using the GC-100 - It first checks to see if DirecTV is on, if so, it pauses the programming, then switches input to the turner, changes the channel, and then after a period of time, either switches back or turns off.┬á As you can see, I put alot of pauses between the commands in order to make it work properly (a lot of trial and error).

Code:
If 

System::Equals

 ┬á ┬áP1=$(CQCVar.FrontMotion)

 ┬á ┬áP2=True

 ┬á ┬áP3=Case

If 

System::Equals

 ┬á ┬áP1=$(DTV1.Game_Power)

 ┬á ┬áP2=True

 ┬á ┬áP3=Case

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=DTV1.Game_UserCommand

 ┬á ┬áP2=Pause

 ┬á ┬áP3=True

System::Pause

 ┬á ┬áP1=1000

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Antenna:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

System::Pause

 ┬á ┬áP1=1000

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.D6:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

System::Pause

 ┬á ┬áP1=1000

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.D5:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

System::Pause

 ┬á ┬áP1=1000

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Enter:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

Else

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.PowerOn:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

System::Pause

 ┬á ┬áP1=20000

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Antenna:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

System::Pause

 ┬á ┬áP1=1000

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.D6:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

System::Pause

 ┬á ┬áP1=1000

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.D5:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

System::Pause

 ┬á ┬áP1=1000

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Enter:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

End

Else

If 

System::Equals

 ┬á ┬áP1=$(DTV1.Game_Power)

 ┬á ┬áP2=True

 ┬á ┬áP3=Case

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Component:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

Else

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Component:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

System::Pause

 ┬á ┬áP1=2500

Devices::FieldWrite

 ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke

 ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.PowerOff:1

 ┬á ┬áP3=False

End

End

RE: Remote Control Question - gReatAutomation - 07-15-2019

(07-14-2019, 11:52 AM)Dean┬áRoddey Wrote: You can send sequences of IR commands as required. If it takes more than a single command, then likely you'd want to create a global action that combines the commands, and possibly takes a parameter that the action will use to drive what it does. This will greatly reduce redundant grunt work.

So, for instance, a global action that sets a channel. It takes a channel number, and then looks at the first character and builds up the name of the IR command to send. Then looks at the next character and sends that one. And so forth. It's a little clunking doing that sort of logic in an action (variable length value) but it's doable. Then you can just invoke the action with a channel number and it will issue the appropriate commands, instead of doing that all over the place.

You will have to train in the commands to create 'device models' for the devices you want to control. That will require a GC-100 compatible IR learner, which is the GC IRL. When you create device models with that guy, and save them, they show up as loadable in the GC-100 driver for blasting.

Thanks. I'm waiting for my┬áGC-IRL to arrive.

RE: Remote Control Question - gReatAutomation - 07-15-2019

(07-14-2019, 05:38 PM)znelbok Wrote: I did exactly this with my TV that used to have PIP. ┬áAlbeit with serial and not IR, but that has no bearing on this. ┬áCamera would detect motion (no NVR in this scenario) and send a http get command to CQC. ┬áCQC would then check if the TV was on, and then turn on PIP so the image would be visible. ┬á1m later, CQC would turn of PIP.

I did a similar thing with phone calls and Kodi. ┬áIf we were watching a movie and the phone rang CQC would take the CID and put a message up on the screen (kodi message feature) and we would know who was calling and decide if we wanted to interrupt the movie or not.

Once you have the IR commands, CQC does not care what the command is (IR, Serial etc) it will just send them out as you command.

Thanks

RE: Remote Control Question - gReatAutomation - 07-15-2019

(07-14-2019, 09:53 PM)kblagron Wrote: I have 4 different TV's and my Sony receiver controlled by 4 different GC-100's using IR.┬á Actually I went with an GC Itach (IP2IR)┬áon the last one, and it works fine as well.

I found that┬áhttp://files.remotecentral.com/┬áis a great resource for the Pronto codes, which CQC allows you to insert for the various commands you want to use in the Client Interface.

I probably should of done what Dean suggested and did a global action, but did mine like the triggered event┬ábelow: (which turns on the Cameras if motion is detected using the GC-100 - It first checks to see if DirecTV is on, if so, it pauses the programming, then switches input to the turner, changes the channel, and then after a period of time, either switches back or turns off.┬á As you can see, I put alot of pauses between the commands in order to make it work properly (a lot of trial and error).

Code:
If System::Equals ┬á ┬áP1=$(CQCVar.FrontMotion) ┬á ┬áP2=True ┬á ┬áP3=Case If System::Equals ┬á ┬áP1=$(DTV1.Game_Power) ┬á ┬áP2=True ┬á ┬áP3=Case Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=DTV1.Game_UserCommand ┬á ┬áP2=Pause ┬á ┬áP3=True System::Pause ┬á ┬áP1=1000 Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Antenna:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False System::Pause ┬á ┬áP1=1000 Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.D6:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False System::Pause ┬á ┬áP1=1000 Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.D5:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False System::Pause ┬á ┬áP1=1000 Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Enter:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False Else Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.PowerOn:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False System::Pause ┬á ┬áP1=20000 Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Antenna:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False System::Pause ┬á ┬áP1=1000 Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.D6:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False System::Pause ┬á ┬áP1=1000 Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.D5:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False System::Pause ┬á ┬áP1=1000 Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Enter:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False End Else If System::Equals ┬á ┬áP1=$(DTV1.Game_Power) ┬á ┬áP2=True ┬á ┬áP3=Case Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Component:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False Else Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.Component:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False System::Pause ┬á ┬áP1=2500 Devices::FieldWrite ┬á ┬áP1=GC4.Invoke ┬á ┬áP2=E472VLE.PowerOff:1 ┬á ┬áP3=False End End

Thanks!