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WeatherUnderground no longer free?
#1
I guess IBM bought Weather Underground some time back. Some folks were saying they are no longer issuing free personal use/development keys. They haven't shut down the existing ones, but it looks like they are charging $850/month for the same stuff now. That clearly isn't reasonable for an individual. But it's also clearly not possible for a small company to cover that charge and get a license that all its customers can use.

Not to mention it would get hacked in no time and be used by folks all over the place. It's one thing if it's in some embedded device, but in regular software it would be fairly straightforward to find out what the key is since it has to be passed in every transaction. Even if the connection is encrypted, you still have to build the queries you are going to send, so it's got to be in the open at some point.

Some services may change less as a baseline, but then charge based on access above a certain level. If the key got hacked that would be a very bad thing since the company would be on the hook for that usage until it was caught, and that would require invalidating the old key and getting a new one installed on every customer system. But if they found it once they can find it again even more easily.

I guess you could do a proxy server where the server kept the key. But then the company has to deal with licensing client systems making calls to it, and tracking usage and and the same problem will occur, just one step removed, and folks like AWS and Azure are going to charge based on volume as well.

Anyhoo, I don't know if there's any immediate cause for alarm. The discussions I saw on another forum were from May, so they haven't shut down any existing keys yet.
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#2
I just got notified that my WUnderground Key expires 12/31/2018.

Boo hoo hoo.
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#3
OK, I guess it has begun. I have done an OpenWeatherMap driver a bit back. I used the free data tier since (as usual) they would not do individual subscriptions but would force us to pay for it. That has a couple shortcomings, like no current forecast text. But otherwise it works well enough.
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#4
What about Yahoo weather? Kodi has several that they use, but they only show temps, and rain...no radar.
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#5
Looks like the Wunderground API will still be available to some degree for those with PWS that upload data. Sounds like the API may be changing, not sure? Here is a link to the post from a WU Rep https://apicommunity.wunderground.com/we...reply-list[settings][filter_by]=all&topic-reply-list[settings][reply_id]=19905323#reply_19905323 and here is a link to the API (proposed/changed?) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eKCn...gArAY/edit
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#6
If anyone has an account over there, suggest to them that they should license some company to buy the data from them at wholesale and resell it to individual customers for some reasonable price and pocket the difference, which could be considerable. 100K customers at $20/month would be $24M a year, which would be a wide margin over the wholesale cost. Maybe $10/month if you do a year's worth up front.
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