mp3's in repo?

[rm1759]

Dean, I have a question, I know you are working feverishly on stuff, but I was wondering if this workaround would be good for those of us that want to use the CQC repository, and MP3's.

Could I take my MP3's, rip them onto an audio disc using Nero, or some such (in wma format, or whatever we need) and then rip that disc into CQCC?

[noshali]

Dean is working on an import.

From what I understand, the only thing bad about it is that once you bring your files in...you cannot add mp3s after that.

regards,

[penngray]

if you are using MP3s and will download future MP3s (like me) you really should stick with JRMC for your repo. Lots of threads about this and I just believe that its the only solution.

CQC Repo doesnt and wont work with MP3s at all, even if we can import it will convert them all meaning two copies of a song will exist.

[penngray]

Could I take my MP3's, rip them onto an audio disc using Nero, or some such (in wma format, or whatever we need) and then rip that disc into CQCC?



Yes, I think that will work.

[Dean Roddey]

That wouldn't work. It wouldn't be a real CD, in PCM format, which is what the ripper is looking for.

[rm1759]

if you are using MP3s and will download future MP3s (like me) you really should stick with JRMC for your repo. Lots of threads about this and I just believe that its the only solution.

CQC Repo doesnt and wont work with MP3s at all, even if we can import it will convert them all meaning two copies of a song will exist.


Hmmm, I keep waffling. I do not have JRMC, so I am starting from scratch. I do have all of my cd's ripped to MP3, (3,500 or so songs) and I have a few hundred of MP3's I downloaded, and going forward I will be strictly getting MP3's.

So, starting from scratch I thought the CQC repo is the way to go. I am not concerned about disk space, but the ability to import is real important for me in the future. I just don't know if I should go through the pain of re-ripping all of the cd's, or cough up the $40 and go with JR...

[Dean Roddey]

There will certainly be advantages moving forward into the future to using our repository, with us doing the ripping. Because we will be able to tie in various other features to our online metadata source that we'll be setting up this year. It'll take a while to really come to full flower, but when it does, it'll only be for folks using our repository and any benefits it provides (such as access to ancillary information or online purchase and so forth) would only be available for folks using our repository with information ripped by us.

[bryanb]

Dean,

I'm going to use the CQC repo and I do already have a bunch of ripped MP3s. But, I don't think I understand why you are only ripping into your repo as wma files. Could you explain? MP3s are so common. I guess I don't understand why you can't support that format also.

Thanks,

Bryan

[liftn]

Ya, I asked that same question a while back, and the direction they were going for was similar to the Kalidescope or something like that. I think that the MP3 would be of major concern. Most people getting into home automation, would probably start with audio/video. If the most common audio format is not supported, you losing a major market. IMO

[penngray]

I think Dean is exhausted from this debate ;) Many threads hit this topic hard.

Here's my thoughts on this and I have 11,000 MP3s already so Im bias ;)

No doubt the CQC repo in the future will have more features but Dean has always said JRMC repo will exist too and I cant see development for it completely stop so if you have MP3s use JRMC if you want to start from scratch and "lock" your music collection down use CQC repo ;)



I dont want to re-rip because I will lose portability (ie burn a MP3 CD or copy some MP3s to a portable MP3 player).

JRMC works just fine and I believe at some point we might just have an embedded Jukebox style widget then there is no need to argue if CQC Repo is better.




Could you explain? MP3s are so common. I guess I don't understand why you can't support that format also.



IMO.....
Music industry type hate MP3 formats because they can not be secured. Dean has to bow to that industry like all other companies including Kalidescope so to avoid lawsuits Im sure Dean has went the route of secured WMA.


MP3 battle roars on.............

[liftn]

IMO.....
Music industry type hate MP3 formats because they can not be secured. Dean has to bow to that industry like all other companies including Kalidescope so to avoid lawsuits Im sure Dean has went the route of secured WMA.


MP3 battle roars on.............

I can understand not being able to rip to MP3 for security, but not being able to list doesn't seem to make much sense.

[Mark Stega]

I can understand not being able to rip to MP3 for security, but not being able to list doesn't seem to make much sense.

We have nothing against the MP3 format. However, in the first release of the media features, we chose to support a high quality format in the form of the WMA lossless scheme. The CQC media handling will evolve to support more formats, more distribution methods (no doubt including portable devices at some point), etc. There is a limit to how much could be accomplished in a first release with a reasonable time frame (and we overshot the desired timeframe by quite a bit).

At any point in time, you will have to weight the advantages and disadvantages of each solution (CQC MRM versus JRMC for example) and decide what suits your music acquisition/listening styles the best.

[bryanb]

So it is not a legal issue. It's a quality and resource issue. Using the drop in the bucket theory, I would like to add my drop for having the ability to rip into the MP3s format. For my old hears, the quality is more than sufficient.

Part of my problem, is that I have some networked media players around my house that plays only MP3s. So I have already ripped my CDs to MP3s and have acquired other MP3s as well. Now, I have ripped by CDs again, using MRM into my CQC Repo. So I have to maintain two Repos. I guess I could go to another supported Repo, but I don't want to do that. I want to stay CQC mainstream if at all possible.

So all I would ask is to keep moving forward on supporting more media formats, as you said you were going to do. Hopefully, the MP3 format would be the next one you fully support. Thanks again.

[Dean Roddey]

Well, eventually, we'd just provide you with the ability (where it's legal) to export selected tracks to MP3 from our repository into a portable device. That way you wouldn't have to give up high quality content in the respository in order to support a low quality device.

And WMA supports low bandwidth as well, so it's not that you have to rip to high quality in our repository. You select the level of quality you want in the MRM and it uses that to rip. But generally, disc storage being what it is today, there's little reason not to rip losslessly into the repository.

[ellisr63]

Well, eventually, we'd just provide you with the ability (where it's legal) to export selected tracks to MP3 from our repository into a portable device. That way you wouldn't have to give up high quality content in the respository in order to support a low quality device.

And WMA supports low bandwidth as well, so it's not that you have to rip to high quality in our repository. You select the level of quality you want in the MRM and it uses that to rip. But generally, disc storage being what it is today, there's little reason not to rip losslessly into the repository.
I def would like to be able to make some MP3s from the Repo that I ripped.